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Post by garroadran on Apr 14, 2011 20:56:41 GMT -5
No deaths.
Plenty of skullfucking though
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Post by garroadran on Apr 14, 2011 21:04:21 GMT -5
Is Rawkking officially in?
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Post by garroadran on Apr 14, 2011 21:25:42 GMT -5
He is, Raakam, if you're around, Rawkking will need to be approved
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Post by garroadran on Apr 14, 2011 21:42:33 GMT -5
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Post by godmode on Apr 14, 2011 21:47:13 GMT -5
No sense in spreadsheeting. I think if everyone abstains, the game is over.
Or a new facet of the game will be unlocked. One of the two.
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Post by garroadran on Apr 14, 2011 21:52:26 GMT -5
Abysmal already said that abstaining is not enough, but that it would be better than voting.
I haven't bothered to track votes yesterday or today though.
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Post by Raakam on Apr 14, 2011 22:01:27 GMT -5
Rawkking is approved
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Post by rawkking on Apr 14, 2011 23:08:44 GMT -5
Abysmal already said that abstaining is not enough, but that it would be better than voting. I haven't bothered to track votes yesterday or today though. This could just simply means that there needs to be no abstaining and no kill orders, or something else entirely. Gonna read the boards and catch up. |
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Post by rawkking on Apr 14, 2011 23:44:39 GMT -5
At this point, I really do believe that we are not the mafia, but a neutral party - I think Alegis's group may actually share the same win condition we do, which is outnumber/outlast everyone else, in which case, we do not want them in here because: 1) they get their kill tonight and we don't which puts them ahead 2) we'd be giving up way more information than they would be since we wouldn't gain access to whatever proboards they have. I'm ok with including my names in the PMs between the two parties, but I'm a little wary of the "mafia" if it's still out there. If after tonight nothing shows up as an extra kill other than their group, then fine, I'll accept we're the baddies and I'll come out as Godmode's partner in public and we can pretend to be the goody two shoes. Otherwise, the mafia kill order was just blocked last night. There were two kills last night, both of them on Mr. D. The narration implies that more than a little heavily. Also, we're definitely not a 'neutral' party, since the 'village' needs to kill us in order to win. I asked for that clarification back on day one. We are a sort of mafia, according to our win condition, except, as I said in my earlier post, I think that most of the village is working under similar circumstances, and there is an actual, real mafia that we all need to work against together. Well, you specifically asked it they *considered* us a threat, and got a yes  . I've asked about whether our win condition is accurate, and if there are alternative win conditions. Should probably alter that one to asking if we could have an alternative win condition. The way I see it if day of peace works, great. If not, we should work with Alegis's group. So far they have claimed to be the same as us, right? Even the same goal of escaping the hospital! While they may not be able to win with us it's definitely in our interest to get them to cooperate with us and coordinate kills against the insane village. They will lose if they are actually against us in the end, and with no guards we'll already lose rakaam and godmode quickly to them. The village is strong and we have to work together to take down them. That does NOT mean sending them our member list without very careful deliberation. Frankly I don't think they have enough leverage against us to make a full member reveal of both parties a thing that will happen. If it were 5 v 5 we could reveal our lists and go at each other in the end or just let the village choose the winner while we ensure the village is NOT the winner, but it's not. We're winning. |
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Post by rawkking on Apr 14, 2011 23:47:11 GMT -5
Also, some information requests.
Godmode, what have you revealed to the thread and to anybody else in our game so far? Is our total number compromised? Have you told them that nobody of our group has died yet? Please do not freely offer the information if you haven't already, while I don't think epic revealing was a *terrible* decision per se with all the confusion freely offering everything and hoping that our win condition isn't what it plainly says on the tin is frankly retarded. Not going to waste energy crying over spilt milk if it's already been done though. If our number of dead players hasn't been compromised we might be able to just lie and say that one/two of unattributed insane deaths were ours. Gotta be *incredibly* careful about making such a claim though, if we get caught we're dead.
Also, what have the self-committed/nurse players claimed about their abilities and objective, if anything?
They could be another "ally" a la Alegis's group, though it's less likely that we can win with them if day of peace fails.
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Post by rawkking on Apr 14, 2011 23:51:33 GMT -5
Also garroad or whoever was doing that talking, have you found any evidence of multiple groups like ours and Alegis's? Any players that seem convincingly like a lone insane villager?
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Post by rawkking on Apr 14, 2011 23:56:40 GMT -5
Also, we should probably take the risk and hold our odd day kill today.
(postsplosion complete!)
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Post by garroadran on Apr 15, 2011 0:07:54 GMT -5
I don't know if he's told them our total number, but he has mentioned that no one in our group died, in the thread.
Agreed on holding the kill, but it's a long day and plenty of things may yet shake loose.
As for doing the talking, no evidence, but I believe at this point we've got at least four independent groups claiming to be sane masons.
Us
Alegis/kuhl/oldmanken (via godmode)
VoidSlayer, Dunadan, Teucrian (via jackisreal in thread, although VS revealed as an "insightful madman")
Cow King + unnamed masons (via Cow King through PMs)
The self-committed, nurses, and orderlies have said nothing publicly. It is my assumption that they are the so-called "mafia."
The reason I asked about whether or not we're considered a threat was because the villager PM (which is posted in the Day 1 narration... page 4 I believe it is) says that the villagers have to eliminate all threats.
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Post by rawkking on Apr 15, 2011 0:16:40 GMT -5
Yeah, but he answered yes, which from your questions translates into "we are considered a threat", not "we ARE a threat".
Since abysmal has said there's a way for everyone left alive to win, this either means that
1. The orderlies, nurses, and self-committed have all been eliminated, and are teh mafias.
2. They have not been eliminated and are not teh mafias.
It seems overwhelmingly likely that a day of peace with no kills is likely to result in a victory for all. At the very least the narration will make things clearer.
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Post by garroadran on Apr 15, 2011 0:29:08 GMT -5
Ugh, that is treading a very fine line of anal retentiveness on the obvious intent of the question. Still, we know that that particular win condition for the village is not the ideal situation, so it's a moot point. This is the relevant post on a day of peace: forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=18985544&postcount=734Certainly doesn't sound like that alone will end it, but we shall see. Also, I think we really need to dump the concept of a "mafia" in this game if we're going to solve it. Abysmal said he's pretty sure there's at least one Orderly left alive, for what that's worth. |
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. I've asked about whether our win condition is accurate, and if there are alternative win conditions. Should probably alter that one to asking if we could have an alternative win condition.